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Have you overcomplicated your business? Maybe you feel overwhelmed when thinking about what you offer or even just what you have to do. In today’s episode, Jade Boyd joins us to share 5 steps to decluttering your business!

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Review the Show Notes:

Get to Know Jade (3:31)

Simplifying So You’re Not Overcomplicating (7:03)

Reasons We Become Overwhelmed (9:06)

How to Say No to Good Things (12:31)

5 Steps to Declutter Your Business (14:52)

Step 1: Clarify (15:15)

Step 2: Edit / Refine (19:30)

Step 3: Organize (28:20)

Four Categories for Organizing Life & Business (30:30)

Step 4: Managing Your Time (39:30)

Step 5: Maintenance (47:13)

Advice to Overcome Overwhelm Today (51:54)

Personality Questions (57:53)

Mentioned in this Episode

Essentialism

Effortless

Clickup

Asana

The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry

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Sabrina Gebhardt
On today’s episode of the shoot straight podcast, I am chatting with my friend Jade Boyd and we are talking about five steps to decluttering your business. My friend if you feel overwhelmed, overwhelmed by your business, overwhelmed by your calendar, overwhelmed by all the things you have that you need to do. Plus, you’re overwhelmed by all of those projects and goals you have that you can never seem to get traction on. Today’s episode is pretty much going to blow your mind. Jade is a business and productivity coach who helps burnt out service providers simplify and scale their businesses so they can earn that dream income while working part time hours. Trust me, this episode is for you. Let’s dive in. Welcome to the shoot it straight podcast. I’m your host Sabrina Gephardt. Here I will share an honest take on what it’s like to be a female creative entrepreneur. while balancing business motherhood and life. myself along with my guests will get vulnerable, their honest conversations and relatable stories because we’re willing to go there. If you’re trying to find balance in this exciting place you’re in yet willing to talk about the hard stuff to the shoot it straight podcast is here to share practical and tangible takeaways to help you shoot it straight. Welcome back to the shoot it straight podcast my friends. Today I’m chatting with my friend Jade Boyd. And I’m really stoked about where this conversation is going to go today. It’s something that I personally can’t wait to hear all about. And so I know it’s going to be a great chat. But before we dive straight in Jade, would you introduce yourself to the audience?

Jade Boyd
Absolutely. Thanks for having me. Um, so I’m Jade Boyd. I am a business and productivity coach for service providers. I am a Midwest gal. I live in Iowa City with my husband, we have been doing DIY home renovations for about four years. So in my free time, I am a hobby interior designer and also obsessed with plants. But in my business, I’ve kind of had a roundabout journey where I started after getting my MBA in marketing, which is not the traditional story for entrepreneurs if there is a traditional story. And then I started in brand photography, and ultimately got into business coaching. So I’ve dabbled in a lot of different things. But I have landed on something that feels really aligned and good for me. And I’m sure we’re going to talk more about how that journey came about and how that’s affected the way that I view business strategy and productivity as an entrepreneur. But yeah, that is what I’m doing today. Yeah,

Sabrina Gebhardt
you have a really interesting path and your business model and the way it’s structured and who you speak to is so unique. I love it. It is so unique to you. And it makes it really fun to follow you on social media because like I know what I’m gonna get from you. I know I can tell it’s your content, even if your face isn’t showing, or whatever I know like this is from Jade, and it’s just really fun. It’s and you always have such great insight to share. So we’re gonna get started. If you don’t know, Jade, let me just go ahead and tell you. Her love language is simplicity and minimalism. And she does it so well. That’s the heart and soul behind your podcast and your coaching business. I would love to know where that comes from. Is there like a backstory of how you got to this place where simplifying was super important to you?

Jade Boyd
Yeah, so this this question really made me think because I don’t think I can narrow it down to any one pivotal moment where everything clicked. For me. I’ve always been just a very task oriented person obsessed with getting things done and planners and it’s hard for me to separate like organization and simplicity because they go so hand in hand. So I think part of it is just my Enneagram one personality that’s always been there. But if I were to identify like a turning point, I probably would have been from discovery and Marie Kondo, which is really cliche because Kondo, but I read her book when I was in college, and I remember going through her process and getting rid of things and just how transformational that was. And I think that’s the first time that I recognized that there’s a difference between wanting to organize everything and get everything done, versus having less to do and that belief in itself was totally transformational, obviously, in a very different area of life, like physical possessions and organizing your house are very different from creating a simple life and like task management and all those things. But in grad school, too, when I was getting my MBA, I had a professor who was my favorite professor. He was very intimidating, a very smart guy, but also introduced me to the KISS principle. It was the first time that I had heard of this principle which he was teaching in a marketing research The class that I was in at the time, which was a very complicated and sophisticated class, we were like, copying and pasting code into software that I didn’t understand to analyze data for marketing. Like it was very complicated. Yeah, during that class is when he introduced the KISS principle, which is keep it simple, stupid, or I like to say Keep It Simple sister. And this idea that you don’t really understand something until you can explain it simply which I think we’ve all experienced in different ways in our lives, like, my husband is really into sourdough right now. And I could probably explain to you how to make sourdough because I have the list of instructions. And I, I made myself do it one time. But he understands it’s in a way that like, oh, this happened to the loaf, so it must have been too warm that day or too humid, I do not understand it to that level and cannot explain it simply at all. And so there’s a difference between understanding something and being able to like go through the steps versus when you really, really get something, you’re able to make it simple. I love the quote that says Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication. And I’ve just found that that is so true. And also simplifying things is really freeing, like I said, because it is impossible to get everything done. And we hold ourselves to such high standards as business owners and as women in as far as how much we should, but unquote, should be able to get done or accomplish or do. But simplifying things is kind of shortcut to freedom. So I don’t know if that is a clear story on why I’m obsessive simplifying. It’s been a lot of different touch points in my life. But I would say those two people had probably the biggest impact. Yeah,

Sabrina Gebhardt
so I’m wondering, since this happened, before you started your business, you started to really appreciate simplifying and simplicity. Was it always that way in your business? Or did you have to go through like some growing pains, and then take a moment and say, Okay, this has gotten too complicated. I need to simplify things, or did you start out? Does that make sense? Yeah,

Jade Boyd
yeah. It’s easy to overcomplicate things. So I think no matter where you start in business, things are gonna get complicated. And it’s a constant cycle of like, okay, I’m learning a bunch of stuff and understanding it and trying to match different things. Now, let’s simplify. And now that I know what’s working. So part of that journey was me going through that same process, because entrepreneurship is its own learning curve. But going back to like, when you really understand something, you can make it simple, I feel like I was at an advantage where I did have the traditional business background. So I got my bachelor’s in entrepreneurship, actually. And then I got my master’s in marketing. And so I had a really strong understanding of all of the fundamentals in business before starting a business. So I was able to like, look at all the educators online in the courses and not just see, like, Oh, these are the steps to do, but really understand why that would work or not work, and then filter my decisions through that, which I think did shorten the process of figuring out like, Okay, what should I be focused on? Or what is most important? Or how, what is the plan for reaching my goals in business? And simplicity really is about creating good filters and decision making on what stays and what goes. So I do think that that helped a lot starting out.

Sabrina Gebhardt
Yeah, I love that. So I know that you see this a lot. And I see this as well. And I’m certainly guilty of it. creative entrepreneurs love to overcomplicate things. Part of that is because we’re so flushed full of ideas, and doing too many things at one time, being distracted by a lot of things, and shiny objects and all of that we try to do all the things, wear all the hats, join all the groups offer all the things. And in my experience, it’s really easy to become really, really overwhelmed pretty fast. So today, you’re going to share five steps to decluttering our business and I legitimately cannot wait. I’m going to be taking notes myself. But before that, I would love to know, why do you think we’re like this? You’re on the podcast, I love to get to the why and the internal reasoning behind things. So do you do you have any insight

Jade Boyd
into that? Yeah, I think there’s good and bad reasons why we’re like this. So the good you already kind of mentioned, the good part is that we do it because we’re creative. And we’re excited and passionate about what we’re what we’re doing. And we are as humans wired to really enjoy novelty and new things. And there’s something really positive about that. So I don’t want to say that saying yes to things is always a bad thing, because that’s definitely not the case. There’s a very positive side of that and probably positive experiences that come out of anything that you might say yes to. But then I think the darker side of this in why we do this is because I think at a baseline a lot of us are trying to like justify our existence or prove our worth or like define our identity based on things that we’re doing. And that can make it really easy to slip into that habit of like I’m going to Say yes, because other people are expecting me to do this, or I want to be the person who shows up in this way, or I want to be the business owner who’s able to take on three things at the same time and succeed at it. And that like internal, like, I should be doing this, or other people expect me to doing this or I won’t be successful until I’m able to do X, Y, and Z like that part can be the bad part. Because simplifying and decluttering requires you to say no to good things. And oftentimes, that can be like a, like a gut punch, or I don’t want to let people down or I don’t want to feel like I failed, because I couldn’t say yes to this. And it is really hard to say no to good things. And we think that simplifying means like, Oh, I’m just gonna get rid of like, all of the toxic relationships and the meaningless task items on my to do list. And that part’s really easy. But the harder part is saying no to good things. And I love this like analogy of pruning. So with pruning, if you’re into gardening, I’m into like indoor plants, but not necessarily gardening. take that leap in future years, probably not this year. But pruning requires cutting away good branches, right, like things that could potentially turn into flowers or fruit, but you cut away the good thing so that better things will grow in the future. And that’s a really hard decision to make as a business owner, because like I said, a lot of those things are really positive, saying yes to that retreat, or that digital course or that client is going to bring good things into your business. But are you saying yes to good things, at the risk of losing out on the best things, those are really hard decisions to make. So to sum that up, it’s good and bad, why we say yes to things that ultimately lead to overwhelm. But I think it really does boil down to being able to make the hard decisions.

Sabrina Gebhardt
Yeah. And you’re so right, it is so hard to say no to good things, it is so hard. And there’s a there’s a certain level of clarity you have to have and trusting your instinct, and knowing like what season of life you’re in, and what your goals are currently, to stay really, really focused. And when you have that clarity, you can very clearly see that this is a great opportunity, but it is not what I’m working towards this year. So this is an easy, no, it makes the process easier. Do you have anything else to add to that as far as how, you know, learning to say no to good things?

Jade Boyd
Yeah, I really love this quote by Greg McEwan, who’s one of my favorite authors. I know you’re gonna ask me about books. But his books essentialism and effortless are two of my absolute favorites when it comes to like applying minimalist and simplicity, principles to life, in general. But he has a quote, he says, You cannot overestimate the unimportance of practically everything. And it’s so true. And we all have those moments in business or life where it’s like those gut punch moments, I like to call them in the productivity space, like heart attack moments, because I feel like it’s filled with authors who have had heart attacks, and then realized what matters. And we all have those like, oh, my gosh, nothing really matters, right? Like, the things that matter really are very, very few in our lives. But we live with the daily reality that everything has more importance than it really does. And so that kind of contributes to us not being able to say no to good things. But we really can’t underestimate the unimportance of really almost everything in our business, we can get away with cutting a lot of corners, I was just talking to one of my past clients who is going through a really hard season. And she was just launching a new strategy for her offer suite that we had done a lot of work on last year and then went through a really hard season where her time was very, very limited because of life stuff that was going on. And in her launch. She was like chat GPT right, this email for me like cutting borders, left and right and just doing the bare minimum, and still had a really, really successful lunch. And we were just chatting about like, yeah, it is funny as perfectionist or people who hold ourselves to higher standards or what we think we should do, or even holding ourselves to our own standards of like I have to do at least as good as I did last week or last year. Like how successful we can be when we’re cutting a lot of those corners that don’t even really matter. The things that do matter are

Sabrina Gebhardt
very, very few. Yeah, I love that. Okay, so I don’t want us to get too off track, but I just wanted to go down that rabbit hole a little bit. I love I love that insight. So again, five steps to decluttering our business. That’s where we’re really going today. So I’m just going to have you start at the top of the list and share with us and I can’t wait to hear everything you have to say. So just dive right in.

Jade Boyd
Yes. So I’m going to try and keep this brief because I can definitely get up on my soapbox. So feel free to cut me off but these are the same five steps that I go through with my clients and in my coaching program to really declutter their business from A to Z and get rid of the things that don’t matter. And like I said, the more you focus on what matters, the more successful you’re going to be anyway. And we already kind of hit on the first one, which is to clarify, like, in order to get rid of what doesn’t matter, you have to figure out what actually does matter. And yesterday, you and I were actually talking about defining your version of success, which seems like this very, almost like woowoo, doesn’t matter. It’s like this reflection exercise, does it actually contribute anything or help me at all, but until you really get clear on what success looks like to you, it’s really hard to make those decisions on what actually matters in your business or in your life. There’s no filters, and like I said, decluttering is all about setting up the right filters for what stays and what goes. So in the clarify, I would say defining what a success actually looks like for you and your business. Because if you don’t decide, you will be told like success looks like a six figure business success looks like working two days a week success looks like having a luxury service, like whatever it is, you’ll be told what your definition of success should be by many, many people. Yeah, so you have to decide for yourself. And then as business owners, the second part of the I, I really believe in understanding your numbers and setting Profit First goals in your business. So again, revenue doesn’t really matter. But profit does in terms of building a business that’s actually going to contribute to your life and your quality of life, the amount that you’re paying yourself, you have to focus on the profit. And that comes with managing your revenue, yes, but also your expenses and really understanding your numbers. So from a clarity perspective, in business, we like to think about minimalism, as we like to focus on what we’re getting rid of, or if you’re doing a closet clean out. It’s like how I’ll look at how many trash bags I’m donating. And that seems like the most exciting thing, but you can’t know what to get rid of until you know what your goal is or what you want to stay and for profit for schools that’s really clarifying, like, how am I going to hit these numbers to create a business that actually is sustainable, because it’s profitable, and it’s paying me and it’s a better alternative than going back to a nine to five, but also is allowing me to hit those goals without working like 80 hours a week and giving up all the free time that might matter in terms of building your family are spending nights and weekends with your husband or your kids. I’m so getting really clear on what that looks like right out the gate. That is step number one. Yeah, and I love that. And I don’t know if this is one of your steps. So I don’t want to jump ahead. But I think it’s really important. I

Sabrina Gebhardt
obviously, again, we talked about this yesterday and defining success. It’s a really important thing that I coach to that so many people skip. But a really important part of the puzzle is not just defining it from the get go, but staying on top of it and constantly reviewing it. Because like you said, we get told what success should be. And if we look at it, you know, on January 1, and then don’t look at it or review it any other time during the year, we’re going to get distracted by what Instagram is telling us we should be doing. And we’re going to completely pivot away from focusing on what really matters to us. So asking yourself, if it’s, you know, the last day of the month, ask yourself four questions. Did I attend all my kids sports games? Did I close my you know, and kind of just checkpoint and do a gut check? Like, am I achieving the things that I set as my own definitions of success, both financially and personally? Like keeping that stuff top of mind is really important, too. Yeah.

Jade Boyd
And I should also say that this this five steps is a cycle. It’s not something that like, I’m going to do this once. It’s like any spring cleaning that you might do, you’re gonna have to do it again. Yeah, every season of life and business is going to be different. So yeah, as we’re going through this, your definition of success is definitely going to change. So you do have to check in to see how that changed. And am I actually showing up in a way that I want to?

Sabrina Gebhardt
Yeah, absolutely. And it can change from season to season, year to year, multiple times in a year. I mean, stuff happens. And it makes things change. You know, your spouse could get a job transfer, you could get pregnant, you could have lose a parent, I mean, big things happen that shake things up. And we have to be willing to change them and be flexible, but also being aware of those changes so that we can focus on the right things. I love that. So take us to the next step.

Jade Boyd
So after clarifying, the next step is to edit and this is like the refining stage. So in step one, you’re identifying what your goals are. And I’m going to try and narrow this down to business only because it’s easy to apply this to all of life. But let’s focus on business because like I said, I can get up on my soapbox, too. But editing is refining. And so I see the Edit phase in terms of your marketing strategy. And we also talked about this yesterday, but I think a lot of business owners have mindset issues or like issues in their business. So are frustrated by their progress in business and don’t see that everything is connected to marketing, like any problem you’re having in your business, it can probably be boiled down to a marketing problem. And so getting clear again on what’s important when it comes to marketing, that’s going to be the heartbeat of your business, if you know how to market and you have a really clear marketing strategy, and you know exactly what you need to do every day, every week, every month to show up in book clients and, like build that, like almost snowball effect that’s going to roll downhill so that you’re able to reach your profit first goals in your business, that is going to change your experience, that’s going to be a lot more fun. First of all, because you won’t be feeling like you’re throwing spaghetti at the wall, and you won’t be pulled into like, Oh, if you want to be successful at A, B and C, you have to start a podcast or you have to be on Tik Tok, or you have to be doing blogging, or you have to do this SEO hack. Like there’s, again, so many marketing messages that are thrown at us as business owners that tell us what we have to do to be successful. But this is again, deciding what you want to do in your business to be successful, like what it’s going to take to reach your goals. And I would say marketing strategy, at its simplest, is just knowing where you’re going and how you’re gonna get there. A lot of business owners have big goals, like that’s kind of easy. We all love January 1, getting out the vision board and dreaming up where we want our businesses to go. But unless we know how we’re going to get there, again, it’s going to be really easy to be pulled in all those different directions. Because anything you say yes to, is going to help a little bit. But until you know what you’re planning your strategy is for reaching your goals. It’s going to be hard to filter what you say yes and no to. So step two is getting clear on your marketing strategy.

Sabrina Gebhardt
Yeah, I love that. You said throwing spaghetti to the wall. I feel like everybody listening just totally resonated, because that’s what marketing feels like, when you don’t have that clarity. And it really does feel like well, I’m being told I’m supposed to share personal things that connect and I’m supposed to share about my offers, and I’m supposed to sell every day. And I’m supposed to have a pre launch runway and a launch calendar. And I mean, to somebody who’s never done any of that. It’s like I’m sorry, what. And it can feel very overwhelming and very confusing. And it’s definitely has a learning curve to it. But as someone personally who has been on both sides of this coin, I’ve been in this struggle, where I’m just trying to figure things out and do something and find clients. And I’ve also been on the side of having a very clear, I know what I’m talking about when I’m talking about when things are important when things are not important. It is so awesome to have that clarity, and that plan. Because I’ll tell you what, it takes a lot of stress and a lot of unneeded mental mess and mess mental energy, a way that I can focus on other things. And like you said, it makes it fun. Because it’s not stressing out anymore. I know what I’m doing and what I’m saying. So do you think as far as getting a clear marketing strategy? I mean, I know this is this could be its own podcast episode, it could be its own podcast series. But do you think simply just spending some time putting pen to paper and looking at when you need to be talking about things like what’s the simplest step that we can encourage somebody to take today to refine their marketing?

Jade Boyd
Yep. So I think if you’re boiling it down to like, the end result you want to get to, I would say a monthly marketing plan would be it a template that you can show up every single month, and you know what you can do repeatedly to drive the needle in your business and show up in your marketing, of course are you getting, you’re gonna need to know like, what your offers are and what your sales funnel looks like and who your core client is. And like, stuff like that is going to help inform your marketing plan. But even starting out, if you’re not super clear on any of those things, and you’re still in the testing phase, having that monthly marketing strategy or even like a weekly plan that you can rinse and repeat so that you know what channels you’re showing up on what format you’re creating content and what topics you’re talking about. That would be the simplest way to get started. And it does not have to be complicated. I’m pretty sure most people listening to this are probably doing too much marketing in a lot of it isn’t actually helping you. So boiling it down to the things that are most effective and really aligned to what you like doing too. Because consistency is everything in marketing, especially if you’re in content marketing, like consistency is queen, they like to say and I really do believe it and we are so much more likely to show up in a way that we like and that we’re good at. Rather than trying to force ourselves into this this box of trying to do things daily that we hate doing and we’re naturally like not good at and there has to be a balance there between like trying new things and stretching yourself and growing your skills. That’s definitely part of becoming a marketer, especially if you don’t love marketing or that’s not why you got into business, which a lot lot of creatives would say that I’m sure, but then there also be has to be the balance of like, how can we make this easier, but also when you show up as yourself, especially as a creative or a personal brand, or a service provider, showing up as your most authentic version of yourself goes a long way. Again, it’s like one of those few things that really matter. And so if your marketing plan isn’t aligned to a way that lets you show up as yourself is not going to be effective in the first place. So create a template plan that you can like no brain, I’m going to love showing up and doing this. It makes sense to me. I know what I’m talking about. I know who I’m talking to. I know what offering promoting. That would be the simplest way to boil this down.

Sabrina Gebhardt
Yeah, I love that. I love that so much. And I would add to that a one simple tip is and this is this has come up for me so many times as somebody who has multiple offers to different audiences. Make sure when you are looking at your calendar that you’re not trying to talk to multiple audiences and overlap offers because that’s where it gets really complicated in our brains, like simplify one thing a month, one audience a month so that you can double down and you know what you’re doing and you’re not complicating things. Simple, just really simple. Yes. Today’s episode is brought to you by the roundtable a community built for female photographers who want to continue growing their business while forging industry friendships along the way. In this group, you will learn practical ways to move your business forward. While finding community and accountability with like minded photographers. The roundtable consists of three main parts, new live trainings that drop every month, a growing vault of all of the past trainings, and of course the community. Are you curious how it works. Every month, you will get access to three new pieces of content over a broad variety of topics like pricing, editing, goal setting, website reviews, social media and videos of me behind the scenes at real sessions. Members also have the opportunity to learn from incredible guest speakers and industry leaders on a huge variety of topics. I pride myself in giving you just enough education every month to keep you growing and moving forward. While not overwhelming you with content. The membership vault is such a valuable resource that is honestly more than worth the cost of enrollment on its own. As of today, it has close to 100 trainings and only continues to grow. It literally holds every training from the very beginning of the membership and not to name drop. But the guest experts that come teach inside this group are industry leaders like Amanda Warfield of chasing simple, Natty Shang Kohli, James J. Boyd, and Don Richardson, of tech savvy, creative just to name a few. So yeah, the education is great, but you can’t ignore the community. It is an absolutely incredible group of women just like you. In fact, I’m pretty sure that anyone in the group will tell you that the community is the best part. Consider it your space to ask all the things, get all the support and make real life business besties. If you’re ready to join us, you can head over to Sabrina gebhardt.com backslash membership and enroll today. Now back to the episode. Okay, so what is the next step to declutter our business.

Jade Boyd
So step number three is to organize which I feel like is everybody’s first step that they might think that they need to do, especially when you’re feeling overwhelmed, you’re just like, you know, my, I just need to get everything organized. But I just want to point out, it’s step number three, there’s a couple of important steps that come first. So if you dive immediately in, and they’re like, I’m just gonna set up dubsado, and my pest management system and everything, it might be really, really hard, because again, it’s not about getting everything done, or finding a way to cram everything into your schedule, it’s about getting the right things done, and kind of letting the rest fall to the wayside. So for organized again, there’s a lot of different things that we could organize, but I’m gonna give one, my I think the most crucial thing to get organized would be your task management system. And I am a clickup Gal through and through. And so I love clickup My entire life is organized in clickup. And it doesn’t have to be in a complicated task management system or in a task management system software at all. It can just be a planner system if you want it to be that way. But you do have to know and not keep like all of your tasks in your head. That is the most overwhelming and like debilitating thing that you could do to yourself as a business owner because there is way too much that you’re responsible for to keep in your head and as a creative. You need to spend your time and energy being creative. That is what is going to make the biggest difference in your business and having all of those like admin tasks and marketing tasks floating around in your head is going to prevent you from showing up as the best version of yourself for your clients and for your business because you It takes a lot of creative energy to run a creative business. So as far as task goes, this is how I like to think about organizing them. Because if you do say like, I’m just going to sit down and brain dump my tasks, that can be a lot. And it can be really overwhelming, just staring at this, like clutter of laundry schedules and kids schedules and like Instagram tasks, all of the things and figuring out how to organize it. So from a whole life perspective, I like to think of this in four different categories. And everyone has their own goal setting framework where they split, you know, life into different categories, I like to keep it simple and just do four. So the four I use are personal, like anything related to my personal health, individual tasks and goals. The second one is relationships, anything related to the important relationships in my life. The third is home, because as women, oftentimes we are taking on a lot of unpaid work, where it really is an entire job in itself to manage a home. And there’s so many things that come with that. And what I found is that you really can’t separate your personal life from your business, because they will both affect each other every single day. So keeping these four categories in mind, they’re going to affect each other. So what you do for your personal health does impact your business, what you do for your relationships, will impact your business for the better or for the worst, and home is the same. And then the fourth one is business. So to sum up, again, personal health, relationships, home, and business. And then within your business, I also have four categories. Because again, if your brain numbing tasks, even just for your business, it can be a lot. And the four categories I break tasks into are first of all goals. So step three, we’ve already nailed that down, we have our goals and our marketing plan. So we have it broken down into what we need to do to reach those goals. Amazing, that’s already crossed off the list. The second one is marketing. So organizing, again, your marketing strategy, knowing what tasks you need to do day in and day out on that monthly, weekly daily basis. The third one is clients. And then the fourth one is admin. And so starting with those categories, and making a list of the tasks that you do in each one of those areas, and then getting that organized, whether it’s in a planner or in a task management system, like I said, I use click up because I found that there’s way too much to keep on track of especially I feel like my podcast workflow is the go to example that I go to because there’s like 35 tasks that have to be done for every single podcast, and some of them are done by my editor and my VA. And there’s no way I would be able to manage that on paper, like it would take way too many messages back and forth to be able to do that. And so I do think you’d get to a point in business where you really do need a task management system that can help you automate and like delegate, and even create, like standard operating procedures and workflows that not only you are responsible for, but whenever I assigned a task to my VA, I just like click a button with her name on it. And I can write a message in the task and it makes it super, super seamless. But the third step is to get organized. Like once you know what you’re doing, make it easy for yourself so that you can sit down at your desk every day and click up literally spits out a list of to do’s for me. And it’s organized in a way that I know on Mondays, the right tasks are gonna pop up on Tuesdays, the right tasks are gonna pop up. And it does allow me to free up all of that extra time and energy to actually focus on what matters and in my business that’s coaching, like I want my clients to get the best of my attention and my energy every single day. And I can’t do that if I’m spending an hour thinking about okay, like, what do I do next? What am I going to do today? It’s

Sabrina Gebhardt
a waste of time. Yeah. I love that you really pointed out guys organization is step three, it’s not step one, because you’re right, people immediately are like, I’m overwhelmed. I must need a software, an app, a new planner to burn down my life and get organized. And actually, that doesn’t work if you start at that point. And I have a perfect story to go with that. A couple of years ago when I was really starting to lean into the online education space. And I was building a course and a coaching program had dreams of a podcast, like I had all of these moving parts that were different from the business that I had been running seamlessly for so long. I immediately got overwhelmed and was like I must need a task management software like and I’m ready for that, you know. And so I immediately dove into asana and bought some templates, whatever. And I used it for like, I don’t know, nine days, I spent more time dumping tasks into it and trying to make it pretty and functional than I did actually staying on top of it. Because I wasn’t ready yet. I wasn’t ready to use it. Because I hadn’t refined. I didn’t have clarity. Like I didn’t do those other steps. And so it wasn’t until like 18 months later, when I was starting a podcast and my podcast manager was like Hey, We’re gonna run this through Asana, I have it all set up for you, I’m going to teach you how to use it. And I was like, Okay, I’m nervous, because I’ve already like I’m already Asana drop out over here. But I told myself, Okay, I’m just going to commit to this with the podcast. That’s all we’re going to do not going to do anything else in here. And for a year and a half, all I did in Asana was the podcast, and it was so awesome. I absolutely love it. You’re right, like the tasks and the putting ideas and the remembering the 500 steps for each episode. And everything is just automated and wonderful, so organized, and it took me using it, for one thing for that long to have the confidence to say, I think I’m ready to put something else in there. And so just this year, we actually set it up at the end of last year, my VA is we now have a couple of different categories. And there are things that she’s working on where I can assign her a task, and she can do it in categories based on course, or mastermind or facebook group management. And then also recently, I’ve started working with somebody to help with social media. And so we’re using a software where we’re putting in the ideas, and we’re assigning due dates. And this time, because I have clarity, and I’ve refined things and I know what I’m doing. It sticks. And so I feel like I have systems in place that are so organized, but I had to get to that step. Like I obviously tried and failed miserably. And I’ve always been a naturally organized person. And so you know, I’ve always had a good planner system and keep on top of like repetitive tasks and stuff. But it does help so much to have one of these platforms when you’re ready for it, you know? Yeah, so I love that I do have a question. And this is kind of a sidetrack. But we’re on this topic. And I know somebody else has this question. So I’m going to ask how you do this. One thing that I struggle with in a so obviously Asana is the one that I use, because that’s the one that I know, they’re very, very similar. Yeah, they’re all so similar. They’re also similar. But when I have a project that I’m like, Okay, I want to launch let’s say, I want to launch a new freebie in next month. And there’s a million little pieces to that, but it’s like a far off deadline. How do you assign that to your To Do lists? When the deadlines far out? Do you break down the tasks and assign them by day? Or do you assign just chunks of time to work on it? I’d love to know how you do that practice?

Jade Boyd
Yes, yes. This is a great question. So that is why I separate when I’m talking about the four categories. That is how my click up space is organized. It’s only four folders, its goals, marketing, clients, and admin, and marketing clients, and admin, those are all recurring tasks, typically, like things are going to happen over and over again, podcast goes out every single week. Bookkeeping happens every single month, like the clients schedule, client calls happen every week, you know, stuff like that. But goals is set aside for those one time projects that really are directly tied to moving the needle and Profit First goals. So it would be something like creating a new freebie, you’re not going to do that every single week. But that is a one time project. And so in my goals folder, I have that broken down by months. And so part of that comes down to strategic planning and knowing like, Okay, this month, this is the focus, this is one of my top projects. And then also breaking down week by week, I have time set aside which is the next step and like managing your time to work on my goals. So I know my capacity every single week, and how many hours I have set aside to work on projects like that. So when it comes to monthly planning, I’ll know based on the size of the project, how many projects I can actually get done that month. And then it really just comes down to that chunk of time I have set aside each week, I get into that I break it down and work on it as much as possible, I think you can get really complicated in your planning for your projects and tasks and assign all of the due dates if you want to. But what I found is that it takes more time to assign like individual times and dates and like break everything down super detailed, rather than sitting down for a bigger chunk of time and actually getting into it and doing the things because I might not have to write down like make the document in Canva versus edit it in Canva. I could get really detailed but I could also just spend an hour doing that and not write it down and be a little bit more efficient. So that’s kind of how my process works. Yeah. Okay. I

Sabrina Gebhardt
love that mental note. I’m going to add that to my to my scheduling to have just the goal work time and to work through the projects one by one. I love that. That’s a great tip. Okay, so you said number four is managing your time. So tell me all about that.

Jade Boyd
Yes. So everything in my business is organized and everything in my life is organized around those categories that I said. So when it comes to step number four, it’s executing, it’s actually getting things done. And I see this in terms of managing both your time and your energy and your focus. I would say there’s three parts to actually getting things done. But I think the most helpful thing for business owners is figuring out how to manage your time because it probably is the most limit Did it resource, at least that’s what I found with my clients time is tricky. A lot of them are working on very limited hours. And in my coaching program, I actually focused on helping service providers who are ready to scale. So they’ve already gotten to that point in their business, where they’re really busy and like, quote, unquote, successful at what they’re doing, but have realized that, okay, I’m kind of at my capacity, I can’t serve any more clients without doing something really different in my business and doing something different does take time. So they’re already fully booked with clients, but also need to make this huge pivot in their business. So time is limited. And finding that time to focus on these like one time projects and implementing different strategies. And going through the learning curve of really changing fundamentally how your business is structured, is a huge challenge. But I feel like finding the amount of time to get things done as the business owner is a challenge no matter what stage you’re in. So if I were to say one, one tip on actually getting the things done, is to figure out how to manage your time wisely. So that you’re spending time doing things and not just thinking about things or doing things that aren’t actually contributing to your goals. So again, I organize that around in my business, anytime that I have to work on my business. It’s organized either goals, marketing, clients, or admin. And that’s how I batch my tasks. And every week looks a little bit different. And things come up every single week that derail you from like your ideal week schedule. But I found that it’s really helpful to have a starting out like a template for how I’m going to spend my time each week so that when something does come up, I’m like, Oh, well, that’s on my goal day. So if I say yes to that, or if I know that I was sick that day, and I have to make up those three hours, then I know exactly what to do moving forward, it’s not just like, I’m just going to hope that I have time to get everything on my list done this week, it allows you to make really intentional decisions about how to use your time, and I like thinking about it on a weekly basis. Because days are short. And like I said, not every day is going to be the same, especially as a business owner, things come up constantly. And a week is enough time to make pivots and like move your schedule around and, you know, make decisions so that you still can get everything done, even when life happens, which it’s going to happen for everybody. So I like to say that a productive week is a productive life. And if you can find a way every single week, no matter what’s happening, to make time for what’s important, again, not everything but prioritizing, getting the important things done every single week, that’s going to snowball over time. So step number four is execute actually get the things done, because having the best strategy and the best plan and the best task management system in the world is not going to help you unless you’re actually showing up and crossing things off the list and moving the needle.

Sabrina Gebhardt
Yeah, I love that. And, and I’m curious, I know that I see this a lot. When I coach, I see women struggling to move their business forward struggling to hit their goals. And when you really drill down to find the problem, a lot of it is in time management. And furthermore, a lot of it is because they are over committing to things and not allowing themselves enough time to do the work in their business to do the marketing to do the projects, right. And so how do you coach women through that when you have somebody that’s struggling with that problem? They have? They’ve gone through this process, they’re organized, they know what their goals are, what they have clarity, but they’re looking at their days and their weeks. And they’re like, there’s literally no room to give, how do you work through that process with them?

Jade Boyd
Yeah, so it’s so individual, because everybody’s situation, and schedule and business goals are so unique to them, and the season of business and life that they’re in. So it does really follow this process. So this is your goal. This is how we figured out like what you need to do to reach that goal. This is the plan. So it really just becomes a question of how do we make time for this specific thing, like this month? What do you need to do to hit 10k? If that’s your goal, what projects have to get done? And how can we make time for those things? Again, focusing on making time for the important things rather than making time for everything because it can get really complicated if you are focused on like, okay, here are all the things I’m responsible for every single week, my definition of success is doing everything. That is way too much. But if you simplify it by saying, These are my goals, this is what I’ve determined in my business that I really want to do this year, in order to reach my definition of success. How can I make time to create that freebie? Like can I get up early one morning? Can I even work a Saturday sometimes it takes a little bit of creativity depending on what season you’re in. Sometimes people are in the place where I’m like myself I have a lot of freedom and flexibility right now without kids get that I can control my schedule to a large extent like still life happens like last week. I got So with a 24 hour stomach bug, like couldn’t control that, or had a funeral come up, that was a really heavy week, I couldn’t control that or how it affected me. But overall, I do have a lot of control over my schedule and how I spend my time. And so for me, I can be more structured and making time for things that matter each week. But not everybody’s in that season. So it really just depends on where you’re at. Yeah.

Sabrina Gebhardt
And I always encourage women to reevaluate what’s on their plate, because when you committed to certain things, maybe your goals were different, or your priorities were different. But now, if you’re heading into a new season with different goals, you know, you’ve you’ve clarified what you want, what’s your version of successes, those things may not align anymore. And so there may be some level of like you said, pruning things that are good things, but maybe you need to back out of this group or this weekly thing, or whatever, to allow time for what really matters to you right now.

Jade Boyd
Yeah, and like I said, it is so individual, and it can also help to just talk those things out loud with someone else, because when you’re living in it, it’s hard to see, like with one of my clients recently, she has very limited hours to work on her business, like less than 20 hours a week because of her schedule right now. And she was struggling to get girl projects done. But when we talked it through, it’s like, okay, she was working out during the day during her like business alone hours when she could have done that, like earlier in the morning, or when her husband was doing bedtime. Like there’s other times a days that she could be doing that which freed up another hour, three days to do what she wanted, prioritize when she did have that alone focus time where she could sit down on her laptop and actually get something done without kids interrupting. Yeah, so sometimes it does take like, an outside push or question and like, Okay, why are you doing this during this time? Or like, Could this be moved around to think a little bit more creatively, because we can get in our own habits and patterns, where it’s just like, this is the way I’ve always done it. And it’s hard to break habits when they’ve been there for a long time. But I do think talking it out loud with someone who can kind of look at it with more of a objective perspective can be really helpful.

Sabrina Gebhardt
Yeah, I love that. Okay, so we’ve gone through clarifying, editing, organizing, and then the execution phase time management, what is step number five.

Jade Boyd
Step number five is the maintenance phase. So like I said, this is a cycle that is meant to be repeated, you’re never going to graduate from this cycle. As a business owner, unfortunately, things are gonna change. And you’re gonna have to start over, which is something that I talk with my clients a lot about, because even my coaching clients who’ve gone through my program, like three or four times, they will say like, Oh, why is this so hard? Like I’ve done this before? Why is it hard to refine my marketing strategy again, like we’ve done this three times, and I’m still struggling to make these decisions, and get things changed in your business and in your life. And your strategy pivots with that. And so knowing that this is a cycle, and there is that step of maintenance, you mentioned a monthly review and checking in with yourself each month, I love to have a CEO day. But if you’re starting small in the maintenance phase, I would say start with a weekly review, again, focusing on having productive week and showing up for your business and the ways that you want to making time for those four areas in your business and those four areas in your overall life. And then checking in with yourself each week. Like what got in the way of what I wanted to happen this week. Did I show up in the way that I wanted to this week, what did I actually accomplish this week, because as business owners, we often just skip over that and are just like on to the next thing. Next thing next thing and don’t take time to actually celebrate the successes we do have in our business. So even having that like 15 minute check in each week, where you’re reviewing what happened. And doing a little bit of intentional thinking about what you can change or what needs to change in each of these four steps in order for you to get closer to your to your goals or to your ideal schedule or to your ideal marketing strategy. Making those tiny, tiny adjustments over time is going to one it’s never gonna go away, because you’re going to consistently be adjusting. But it’s also going to help you make progress a lot faster rather than what most business owners do. Like you said, check in once a year and like this is my definition of success. And then I’m just never gonna think about it. Again, that does not work and and we’ve all experienced that at some point in our life. And the same is true for business. You can’t just check in once a year and hit your like set your revenue goals. And then never think about them. Again, it does take constant checking in and like tiny, tiny adjustments, which are not exciting things to do. Like we we love the big goals and big milestones. But what I found with my clients is that the ones who are most successful are checking in regularly and are questioning things regularly and making very small pivots in a different direction. It’s not like those overnight pivots, where you change everything in your business that are gonna matter the most. It really is those small adjustments over time, which should be a relief to business owners who are feeling overwhelmed like start small with one thing that you can change next week and get gradually better but it can also feel maybe overwhelming because it is consistent theory and building habits. It’s hard.

Sabrina Gebhardt
Yeah. And I love that you said that because it is it’s just building the habit of like you said, doing a weekly check in like, that is a goal and of itself, can you check in every week for a month? Can you check in every week for a quarter and just see what happens when you start to flex that muscle of building that habit. Because, like you said, that’s where you see the most success in your clients is when they’re willing to do that and make the micro changes. It’s not exciting, it is a habit. But when you’re willing to do those habits, that’s when the exciting things happen. You get, you know, you see those big goals reached. And those milestones hit because you did the micro fine tuning and the habit work. I love that. So

Jade Boyd
I like relating this back or thinking about the the analogy of athletes, because the fundamentals are really really boring and not fun. But if you can’t master the fundamentals, you can’t do more exciting things. And the same thing is true of business. So I actually was not very athletic, I was a dancer, that was like the one thing that I loved doing. But like stretching is boring. not exciting. But if you don’t stretch, and if you don’t build strength, like you can’t do a lot of the things that you want to do. And so the same thing is true in business. Like the small things, it’s like putting in the reps, doing the boring things day in and day out is what’s going to help you reach your goals in the end. So I like thinking of that analogy, because it gives me like a mental image of what it looks like. Yeah,

Sabrina Gebhardt
exactly. I love that. So before we close out this chat, I do want to bring it a little bit full circle here. If there is somebody that’s listening that feels like you’re talking to her, she’s like Jade, oh, my gosh, you’re speaking to me. She knows that she needs to simplify and let things go. But she’s overwhelmed. She’s super overwhelmed. What is what is the one thing you’re going to tell her where she should start today?

Jade Boyd
Yeah, um, so I know that you share this passion, I am really passionate about doing business and community. And so the first thing I would say is that you don’t have to be overwhelmed alone, and you’re not crazy. Everybody in business is overwhelmed with something different. I don’t think overwhelm is ever this thing that goes away, because each new stage of business is going to be hard in a different way. So you’re never gonna get to the point where like, you know what I have everything figured out. And life is just so easy, which is what we like to think is going to happen when we look at other people on Instagram, or even have real life conversations with people who’s who are just sharing the highlights of what’s happening in their business or their life, we think that there’s this magic ideal, that’s possible. And that’s not true. But you can live differently and learn to really thrive like not just survive as a business owner and get through it. But find a rhythm that works for you that’s unique to you. And does feel feel good, like exciting to show up to and not like oh my gosh, Monday is tomorrow, like the Monday scary is right? Like, there is hope there. But also, you’re not going to find it alone. If you stay in that that isolation of like, I just need to like put my head head down and like figure this out. Doing everything yourself from scratch is not sustainable. And I feel like that’s a lesson I’ve learned the hard way over and over again, in my business. So the first thing I would say is reach out to someone because again, you’re not alone. And also, there’s so much like creativity and just out of the box thinking that you’re missing out on because your perspective is always going to be your perspective, it’s so hard to see things clearly when you’re in them. And I have found the most value from like very short conversations with other business owners where it’s like duh, yes. How did I see that myself. But again, you can’t like they like to say you can’t read the label from the inside of the bottle. And that’s so true. So the first thing I would say, do not do it alone, get in community reach out to a coach or a Facebook group or a membership, something so that you have somewhere to talk about what you’re going through with other people and get ideas on how to how to fix it. And then the second thing I would say is that if I can say two things again, yeah, I’m long winded today. But ultimately, I think overwhelm comes down to decision making. And it’s either because we’re not making decisions, like when my inbox gets really cluttered, it’s because oh my gosh, all of those emails are related to decisions I have to make. So either we’re not making decisions, we’re not deciding what we want and thinking that’s easier out when it’s not that contributes to things piling up. Or second, we’re making misaligned decisions. And I say, like misaligned instead of bad decisions, because I don’t think that there’s really any maybe that’s an overstatement. It’s hard to say that there’s bad decisions because positive things come out of every lesson you learn in business, but you may be making decisions that are misaligned and saying yes to things that aren’t ultimately helping you in your Your business or in your life. So when it comes to getting out of overwhelm, it really is having the courage to decide like deciding what you want and actually making choices to prioritize what you want. It’s hard like choose your heart, either you’re going to be overwhelmed, or you’re going to do the hard, uncomfortable thing of making hard choices in your business and not deflecting choices or being like, you know what, I’ll just news that email Until next month, they’re all decide to hire that contractor when X, Y and Z. Yeah, actually taking the time to make decisions. And again, that can be so much easier when you’re in community and have that outside perspective.

Sabrina Gebhardt
Yeah, I love that so much. Yes, you’re right. I community is a huge thing for me and a huge passion for me. And I could not agree with that more there is whether it’s a coach, a peer or somebody in a group, but there’s so much value in being vulnerable and sharing where you are and asking for help. And to hear somebody pointed back to you an obvious choice, or an option that you didn’t consider or something else. And it’s like, oh, my gosh, and if I wouldn’t have just asked and shared and been vulnerable, I wouldn’t have gotten that, that information, I wouldn’t have been able to move forward. And it is literally like a light bulb moment. You’re like, Doug, that’s awesome. Yes, of course, you’re right. And so community is just so valuable, whether it’s one that’s free or not. I mean, just you need to find some people for sure.

Jade Boyd
And that’s something I often say with my coaching clients, when they oftentimes when they are feeling overwhelmed, or like I don’t know what to do, this is happening in my business. And this is stressful because x y&z I’m like, well, there’s not a good or bad decision here. So let’s just decide, like, do it this way or that way. One might be better than the other, but neither of them are bad decisions. So let’s just decide and then move on. And a lot of that overwhelm goes away. Because we spiral in my as a perfectionist and an overthinker. I can spiral for a very long time. And you and I were just talking yesterday about this membership idea that I’ve had for a long time, and I love overthinking things, but there’s not a good or bad way to structure a membership. I just have to decide and start, right. Yeah. And yeah, as business owners without an outside perspective, we can let ourselves spiral for a long time. Yeah.

Sabrina Gebhardt
And that that mental energy that goes along with the spiral, which adds like a level of paralysis to everything else we’re doing when we’re stuck ruminating on something when if you just ripped off the band aid and made a decision and move forward, you take a step out of the tornado out of the spiral. And now you have momentum, you know, yeah, that’s huge. Yeah. So listeners of the podcast know that I love to end interviews with some fun kind of personality questions, just so everybody can get to know you a little bit more. So I want to go ahead and do that. We’re still early in the year. So I’ve been asking lately, what is something that you left behind in 2023? It’s not serving you anymore. You’re not taking you’re not taking with you this year?

Jade Boyd
This was actually a really hard question for me. Because I do feel like I’m constantly in that process. So yeah, decluttering and my life by if I could say one thing, I feel like I personally have grown a lot in my ability to let go of perfectionism, like I know and have identified that it’s something that’s held me back in so many different areas, in my business and in my life. And I do feel like last year was kind of a pivotal year for me in actually taking steps to like, I’m just gonna do it, and it’s not gonna be perfect, and we’re gonna see what happens. So I do feel like I left behind a chunk of that. Not all of it. I’m still growing. But I do think a big chunk was left behind in 2023.

Sabrina Gebhardt
Yeah, I love that. I love that so much. So I also know that you love to read. That’s one of the things you share about online a lot. You son, you write blog posts about it, you send emails about it, you share about it on Instagram. So what’s your current favorite either business or personal development book?

Jade Boyd
Yes, this is a hard question, because I have so many, but if I were to say one, I would say the ruthless elimination of hurry by John Mark comer, and I love anything that he writes. But this book specifically is one that I would read every single year. Okay,

Sabrina Gebhardt
I love it. I just wrote it down. So good. That’s awesome. Okay. I am curious. If you think back over the course of your business and your career would you’ve had a lot of twists and turns like you shared in the beginning. What do you think is the decision or investment that was pivotal? That was the biggest game changer for you?

Jade Boyd
Yeah, I mean, the hugest change in my business was pivoting from brand photography into coaching, which was horrifying. Also only came because I had coffee with a friend who was a business owner and a coach also. And she’s like Jade. We were talking about all these things and how I was struggling, like I’m not really passionate about what I’m doing. But I’ve invested all this time and money and I just hit my first 10k month and it feels horrible to burn it all down. And she’s like Jade, this is not sustainable and had kind of that pivotal moment where I was like, Okay, I know I’m not going to be doing this in 10 years. So why am I wasting my time building a business that I know I’m going to burn down eventually why not take the pivot now? And that was the hugest change. And like I said, the most terrifying change in my business because it did feel like starting over from scratch. But ultimately, I love where I’m at today, and I wouldn’t be here now, if I hadn’t three ish years ago, made that decision. Yeah,

Sabrina Gebhardt
I love that. And then if you were not in business coaching, if this was not where you are in life, what do you think you’d be doing?

Jade Boyd
I have always wanted to start a co working space. I love the idea of having like a physical space, maybe it’s just because I’ve been working from home for so long, and I’m starting to get really sick of it. But if I were to start any business tomorrow, it would definitely be like this really aesthetic, Boho, minimalist, like plants everywhere. co working space for women entrepreneurs. I

Sabrina Gebhardt
could 100% See that. As soon as you said that. I was like, Yep, I see that I absolutely see that. That is that is on the horizon. It’s like visually, I can literally picture it. So stay tuned. I don’t know when that’s coming. But that’s coming. Someday. Someday after you get your membership going, then you can work on the co working space. One thing at a time. Yeah. Something else that’s really fun is later this month, you’re actually teaching inside my membership, the round table. And I can’t wait to Sydney the second time you’ve taught to the group and they loved you the first time and you’re going to show up again. And they gained so much for your expertise. So I just wanted to give a quick little shout out if you have been on the fence about this membership. Come it’s time to come pop in. Come pop in learn from Jade am in March and you’ll be so glad you joined. So I just had to give that little bit of a plug there. Okay, before we go, please share with the audience how they can connect and how they can work with you.

Jade Boyd
Yeah, so if this decluttering your business sounds intriguing. I’m actually offering a free masterclass soon in February, it’s going to be recorded. So if you listen to this after that, you can also grab the recording, but it’s a double your profit while working less masterclass. And that would be the number one way if you want to get introduced a little bit more into the work that I do helping service providers break free of the the hustle culture and I have so many clients and no time for anything else to that life where you’re actually making a reasonable income, you’re actually paying yourself out of your business and also not working a million hours a week. That would be the one place that I would tell you to start but then I also have a podcast, the business minimalist with lots of free resources there. So it’s like one of those two things. Okay,

Sabrina Gebhardt
awesome. Friends, make sure that you grab the replay of this training. I’ve seen Jay talk about it. And in real time I’ve seen her talk about it and it is going to be so good. So just go ahead and add that to your to do list. I’ll definitely have a link in the show notes. It has been so fun having you here today. Thank you so much for sharing your expertise. And we’ll see you next time.

Jade Boyd
Thanks for having me.

Sabrina Gebhardt
Thanks so much for listening to the shoot it straight podcast. You can find all the full show notes and details from today’s episode at Sabrina gebhardt.com backslash podcast. Come find me and connect over on the gram at Sabrina Gebhardt photography. If you’re loving the podcast, I’d be honored if you hit that subscribe button and leave me a review. Until next time, my friends shoot it straight.

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