40: The Perpetual State of Hurry with Becky Hoschek

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Are you living in a state of perpetual hurry? You are constantly rushing from one task to the next, seemingly never able to pause and catch your breath. In today’s episode, I’m joined by mindset coach Becky Hoschek. Becky is sharing incredible insight as to how we become stuck in this state of hurry, how it is harming our quality of life, and what we can do to finally get out of it.

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Get to know Becky Hoschek (2:57)

The Reset Conference: Break Up with Busy (5:48)

Why mom entrepreneurs are so rushed (10:21)

What hurry is doing to your quality of life (16:46) 

What’s waiting on the other side of hurry (20:50) 

How to break the cycle of hurry (22:24) 

The key to winning the war with hurry (28:30)

Rapid-fire questions (31:41)

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Sabrina Gebhardt
On today’s episode of the shoot straight podcast, we have my friend Becky Hosek. Becky is a mindset coach for women called to business and our conversation today is such a good one. We’re talking all about living in this perpetual state of hurry. And if you are anything like me, being a mom and a creative entrepreneur and feeling like your life is so full all the time, trust me, you are going to get so much from today’s episode, we cover things like how this even happened. How did we fall into the state of perpetual hurry that we live in? And how to change it steps that you can take to step away from living in this state of perpetual hurry. We also talk about what happens to us physically and mentally when we live in this state. And what’s on the other side. What can we look forward to when we are finally ready to raise our hand and say enough is enough. I am moving past hurry. What can life look like on the other side for you? This is such a great discussion and I really can’t wait to dive in. Give it a listen. Welcome to the shoot it straight podcast. I’m your host Sabrina Gephardt here I will share an honest take on what it’s like to be a female creative entrepreneur. while balancing business motherhood and life. myself along with my guests will get vulnerable through honest conversations and relatable stories because we’re willing to go there. If you’re trying to find balance in this exciting place you’re in yet willing to talk about the hard stuff to to shoot it straight podcast is here to share practical and tangible takeaways to help you shoot it straight. Welcome back to the shoot it straight podcast my friends today is gonna be a really great chat, we are chatting with my friend Becky and she is a person who we got to know each other a little bit on the internet, thanks to the Instagram. And then we’ve actually met in real life a couple of times. So I’ve actually gotten to hug her and engage with her in real life, which is so fun. And it makes my heart so happy because community matters. And we talk about this all the time on the podcast. And in women I coach having real life industry friends, even though we’re not in the same industry, we still have a lot of overlap. And it’s just it’s it’s beautiful to have those real relationships that go from the internet to actually in person. And I’m so excited to have you on the podcast today. So Becky is a business coach. She also has an incredible podcast called Beyond. If you’ve never listened to it, I will definitely link it in the show notes. But again, I met Becky online in 2020, early 2021. And then we met at recess. Yeah, I believe so. Yeah. So it’s been a couple of years now that we’ve kind of been in the same orbit, which I absolutely love. So we have a great topic today. Before we dive straight in, I’m gonna let Becky give herself an introduction, because she’s got all kinds of great stuff to share with us.

Becky Hoschek
Yeah, okay. Well, thank you so much. I am super passionate about this topic, especially as a mom and a business owner and a creative. But my name is Becky Hosek. And I am a mindset and business coach. And I like to say that I am primarily my clients are moms called to business as creatives as online educators. And some coaches as well, or even creatives who have her moving into the coaching space to I kind of see my work as a combination of life support and business strategy. So I definitely think of it as some people might hire one coach for this and one coach for this, but I am kind of that one place where my clients can land each week to talk about all the things, whatever it is, sometimes it’s potty training, sometimes it’s pricing strategy. Sometimes it’s all of the above. And I serve my clients in a couple of ways. I do have the podcast, which is called Beyond the podcast for moms called to business. And then I work with clients one on one. And then I also just started offering VIP days as well because my background prior to becoming a coach was in all the creative things. I have a design degree, I have a business degree in marketing and I have run a photography business for a decade. And so this what I get to do today is this combination of all the things I love to do, wrapped up into one so I live in Illinois, it’s still ridiculously cold right now does not be like spring, and I live here with my husband and our three kids are all school aged now. And I work from home. So that’s kind of what my life looks like in this season.

Sabrina Gebhardt
Yeah, and I relate to you so much and I think that’s how I How you pulled me into your orbit is the moms called to business. I love that umbrella. And that’s definitely where my heart is too. And, and my coaching style definitely leans into the similar style of like personal development and business development go together. And there’s no separating. They’re not two separate entities. It is all mushed together. And yeah, so we have such similar beliefs. And I love that. I love that. So today, we are chatting about something that actually sparked from your talk at reset a couple months ago, and your talk was all about hurry, and what it does to us as women and entrepreneurs, and I loved it so much that I immediately went up to you after your talk and said, We have to continue this chat on the podcast. So before we dive too deep into the topic of hurry, I’d love to hear a little bit of your own personal story and journey with this. Why is it something that you felt led to share at the conference? Yeah, so

Becky Hoschek
from a personal place, I kind of think there was a version of me, free motherhood and post motherhood. And all throughout school and college, I was super ambitious. I was very achievement oriented. I was the class president. I was valedictorian. I was like, What do I need to do now? what degree do I need? What am I going to shoot for now? And something that was interesting is after I graduated? Yeah, it kind of makes me laugh, because I was just thinking, oh, yeah, I also got two degrees in four years, like I smashed, you know, I was doing a lot and a little bit of time. But after I graduated from college, it’s kind of like you get to the place where you’ve, you’ve checked everything off the list. And I had thought about going to grad school to get my MBA. But I remember some, some thing, I don’t even know what it was triggered this thought of like, but why like, do you actually need to do that, like is like is that this going to be important for what you want to do? And I think that started to plant a seed of maybe starting to think about things a little bit differently. But for sure, motherhood did. And I think in part, I think even just like pregnancy, like I just wanted to be president and enjoy it. And my priorities, maybe started shifting some then. But our daughter is 23 months older than our twins. And with the boys. I had to be on bedrest for it was like the end of March until they were born in the middle of July anyway. So that too, I think really slows you down. Like, yeah, do a whole lot, right? And I think then I was just kind of rethinking, like, what do I want to be doing? Like, how do I want to be building this? And how can I be present and be the mom that I want to be and be really intentional and not be in a rush. So I think that is kind of, without even realizing it where my mind started to go. But in terms of why I wanted to share it at reset is because I see it so much. And my clients such rushed lives and days where they feel like they can barely pause to take a breath, and rushing through the entire day, getting everyone to bed. For the for those who are moms, which most of them are trying to check off all the things, get all the things done, get everyone else to bed, get in bed, so they can wake up the next morning and do the same thing all over again. And it is the definition of how you start to feel like you’re missing out on your own life. Because you don’t realize that you’re going so fast and you’re at such a pace, that you’re never even taking a moment to think if you like how this is feeling do you Are you happier doing these things do you not want to. And so I like to just bring awareness to it because in a way it’s kind of become an epidemic. Medically, there is a term called hurry disease. And it’s not an official diagnosis. But it is something spoken about in the medical world that is just connected to stress and anxiety and depression and all of the things that are so common in our culture. And it doesn’t have to be that way. So because it’s such a common struggle, I thought, okay, there are ways that I do life and business differently. There are ways that because of that clients come to me and they are like, what do I need to do differently to make that happen? Because number one, this isn’t sustainable. And two, I feel terrible. And because it’s so common, that’s why I thought okay, I need to talk about this at the conference. Yeah.

Sabrina Gebhardt
I love that. And it resonates with me so much. And I think that’s one of the reasons why I basically pounced on you at the end of your talk. Because I definitely feel that way. And the older I’ve gotten and the older my kids are gotten and the more kind of settled in my business and things, the more I realize what the heck has been the rush or why. Why do I feel like I have to hit this mark, and then this mark, and then this mark on this fake timeline that I’ve created? Yes. Right. And and it’s all pressure that I’m putting on myself. And so I relate to it so much. Like I said before, this podcast is mainly female creatives, right? Mostly moms. Okay, so as a whole, why does this group Why did these female creative entrepreneurs with a bunch of kids, why do we feel so rushed all the time? What has happened to us? I think,

Becky Hoschek
globally, just Worldwide, there is this message of fast and more, be more, do more, have more reach for more strive for more. And not only that, but do it faster. Yeah. And we see that that messaging is thrown at us from every direction. And even if you’re just on social media, for the purpose of marketing your business, you can’t escape it, there is such a constant comparison. And it looks like she’s getting so much further ahead. And how is she accomplishing that? And how is she doing that with three little ones at home, and it creates this message that I must be doing something wrong, or I’m not doing enough. And so I need to do more. And so it does start to ingrain this idea of well, I better hurry because there’s so much to do. And I have so little time to get it done in?

Sabrina Gebhardt
Yeah. So it’s like a comparison thing. Right? In some ways. Yeah.

Becky Hoschek
In some ways, it really is. And I think some pieces of it are that our expectations are just off to where overscheduling ourselves and overworking ourselves and thinking that we should be there already accomplishing that thing. And when we in those terrible kinds of thoughts make us feel like we’re failing. When like you said, these are just stories we’ve made up like I should be there by now. Or I should have hit this goal, or I should be this revenue milestone, or whatever it is. But it feels so true that we start to create our everyday lives around these beliefs. Like I’m so far behind. I’ve got to do more. I’m not doing enough.

Sabrina Gebhardt
Yeah. And then it just becomes this perpetual story that we are telling ourselves, and then we believe and then it becomes ingrained. And it adds to that physical anxiety, right of like, not being able to catch your breath, not being able to go to sleep, not feeling like you’ve ever done anything with your day. Yeah. And it’s all just fake stuff that we’ve put, we’ve it’s like an outfit we’ve put on that doesn’t fit us anymore. Yeah, no. Yeah. Um, yeah. So I think that’s, I think that’s such a valid point about a lot of it’s stemming from what we’re seeing going on around us, you know, and, and it’s just the noise. It’s the noise that we see. And the comparison trap and the well, she’s here. So I need to hurry up and get there too. And I guess I should be doing what they’re doing over there. And the never feeling enoughness of at all.

Becky Hoschek
Yes. And then the second piece of it that I think adds to the problem is that we don’t, because we’re so busy, because we’re so hurried, we never stopped to really define what enough looks like, like, what is enough revenue in my business? What is enough clients? And what is enough, free time, what is enough work hours in my week, and when we don’t define these things, life starts to feel like running a race where there’s no finish line, because you’ve never decided where the finish line is. And that’s why we’re so exhausted. You keep going and you keep going. But there’s nothing to tell you when it’s enough.

Sabrina Gebhardt
Yeah. Or the the finish line is always moving. Right? Like you do you do hit that mark, or you do hit that goal. But then there’s like another one and another one and another one. And yeah, it’s the never ending marathon of that. All right.

Becky Hoschek
Yep. I call that moving the goalposts like you got there, but it wasn’t. And so we’re gonna move it a little further and push it along. So yes, yeah.

Sabrina Gebhardt
So I imagine that collectively, us living this way, in this perpetual state of hurry and rush and not enoughness. And comparison is really terrible. Like any chronic bad habit that somebody has these ways of living become, like really ingrained in us, like we said, is this something that we can change one step at a time? Or is this like a cold turkey rip off the band aid, start a new lifestyle kind of thing?

Becky Hoschek
Yeah, I see this as more of a process. Like any major kind of lifestyle change. It’s about we think it’s about how much we’re doing. We think, Okay, I’m so busy. I’m so hurried. I’m so rushed, what do I need to do less of? It’s really rooted in how we’re thinking and if we try to solve it at a surface level, if we try to just put less on our to do list or saying Oh, two more commitments, we’re not really solving the underlying issue, which is very much mindset based. So it is a process, it’s not a quick fix. It’s not an instant thing that we can solve. But it starts with really understanding the how our thoughts about time, about productivity, about rest, about our value are all interconnected and how they are creating this rushed hurried life.

Sabrina Gebhardt
Yeah, I love how you said that you can’t just try and fix the thing, that there’s an underlying issue. That’s like when you’re in your garden. And if you try and rip off the weed at the top, the roots are still there, and it’s going to come back, you know, it might look better for a little while. But that thing is still there, and it is going to pop back up again. And that’s what is so important about really getting to the mindset behind bad habits and lifestyle. And the way we’re doing things in general hurry being one of them, is being able to really fix it at the root so that it does not come back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that is

Becky Hoschek
the piece that’s so significant. But that almost always gets overlooked.

Sabrina Gebhardt
Totally, totally, because the mindset work is the hard part. Right? That’s the really hard part. It’s the hard part. And it is what oftentimes brings up a lot of stuff that we don’t want to deal with, you know, or that’s really hard to deal with. And the mindset work is not the quick fix it, it can take months and years and professional help. And I mean, all kinds of stuff to really get to what the issue is, and to really fix it. So okay, I love that. I’m curious. Hurry and living in this perpetual state, what is it like physically doing to us? Like, are there mental and physical issues that come from living in this chronic state of hurry and rush and not enoughness?

Becky Hoschek
Yeah, it really robs us of quality of life. There is so many ways are are so many ways where it kind of creeps in to everyday life in ways that we’re not even really realizing. I like to think of it as like, I’m very confident that Hery brings out the worst in us. And I see it showing up in a lot of ways. And, and as you know, this is a lot of what that talk was about though diving into those ways. Number one, when you’re in a hurry, you don’t make the best decisions, you just can’t, you’re trying to again, just take care of things at the minimum level that you can at so that you can check it off your list and move on. So you don’t make the best decisions. The quality of the effort in anything that you do deteriorates when you’re in a hurry, whether it’s trying to be present with your kids, but you’re looking at your phone while they’re talking to you. And you’re trying to do both at once, whether it’s the actual quality of the work that you’re delivering to clients, for example, if you’re in a hurry, that quality is going to deteriorate, hurry also kills productivity, because we’re so distracted, our mind is in 10 different directions at any given time, we don’t have the focus that we need. And because our mind is in so many different places, we feel really overwhelmed. So that’s another one. It also hurry eliminates to essentials that we need for quality of life, rest and connection with other people. When we don’t see rest as something that’s productive and valuable. It is easy to forego that and trade it for more productivity, getting more stuff done. When we’re in a hurry. It’s also really hard to connect with other people in our lives, our kids, our spouse, or even our clients, friends, it’s really hard to have any kind of connection beyond surface level. And then from a faith based perspective, hurry almost makes it impossible to have like a quality spiritual life experience. Because you’re never quiet. You’re never steal, you’re never able to pray or listen or kind of take things deeper, quiet time is something that is very incompatible with a life of hurry and rush. It’s going to be easy to say, Oh, I don’t want to do that today, day after day after day. If it doesn’t feel like that thing is helping move the needle forward. And then at the same time, it’s costing us that quality of

Sabrina Gebhardt
life. Yeah. Wow. I mean, so many things. I think that our audience and I personally agree that any one of those things that you just said would be great to, quote unquote, take care of and not deal with anymore. And then you look at the whole list cumulatively and you’re like, oh my gosh, I want that right. I don’t want to Live in this constant anxious state of hurry. So we’ve chatted about what it looks like to live in this chronic state, what has brought us to this chronic state, and some of the really negative things that happen when we live in it for a long period of time. So now on the flip side, for those of us that really, when we set a goal, or we want to have a lifestyle change, we need to know like, what are we aiming for? Right? I feel like those of us that have lived in this chronic state can’t even fathom what it would be like to not live in it anymore, right? Like, this is what we’ve always done. So I don’t even know, like, if you’re gonna sit here and tell me that I could have a life without hurry. I can’t even visualize that, you know. And I feel like a lot of our audience probably resonates with that. So let’s play the what if game if we can break this cycle of rush and hurry? What’s waiting for us on the other side? Right? Why would we want to make this work such a priority?

Becky Hoschek
I think what’s waiting on the other side is the two things that 100% of clients come to me saying that they want more of and it’s peace. And its meaning. The interesting thing is that we equate business with revenue and profit. And although that is a piece of building a business, the entrepreneurs at least the ones that I work with, that is not the number one driver of why they started a business. And it usually is much deeper than that. It’s about contribution. It’s about doing meaningful work. And it is also about the freedom that comes with building a business on your own terms. But what often ends up happening is that we get into these habits and patterns and wake up one day and realize, I have become a prisoner to the very business that I created for all of these good reasons. And none of these good, well intentioned reasons are the reality of what my life looks like. And so it really does come back to more peace, and more meaning because if it was all about money, there are a lot of other ways that you could make a significant income without being a business owner. So for creatives for creative entrepreneurs, it’s much more than

Sabrina Gebhardt
that. Yeah, I love that. I love that. So let’s get really practical here for the creative female who is literally listening to this episode, and she is nodding her head and raising her hand and totally on board. And she’s like, this is me, I don’t want this anymore. How do we actually break this cycle of hurry? Like, give me the first two steps on this journey?

Becky Hoschek
Yeah. So I actually see it as one big initial step. And it’s where I start with all of my clients. And it’s that we have to create awareness. Before we can change anything most of us are so in the moment by moreso in our own lives, in our own heads in our own the way that we do things. It really takes some intentionality to start to be aware of what’s going on that’s creating this. So that looks like getting curious about what am I thinking about when I’m feeling really rushed or hurried? If I tell myself, I have to do all of these things today. Why, like, what is the reason behind that? Is it true? Is it just a story I’m making up shining a light on what is connected to the feelings of hurry, the rush that’s kind of driving us forward? We have to create that awareness before we can ever try to do anything about it. Because we have to be so clear that there’s like this cause and effect like when I feel so behind all the time, or when I tell myself I’m so behind all the time. I try to compensate by doing twice as much as I have time for when I feel bad about telling people No, I overschedule myself and then exhausted. So it’s really starting to connect those dots like oh, okay, so And the thing is, to connect those dots to create that awareness, you have to start implementing the skill set of pausing and slowing down because you can’t even notice it if you don’t do that. So that in that self that exercise that curiosity, and gaining awareness is really solving multiple, or, I guess serving multiple purposes. It’s forcing you to slow down but it’s also giving you really important information of why you feel this way.

Sabrina Gebhardt
Yeah, I love that. And as someone who is trying to practice real awareness and pause in lots of different ways, currently, I I totally love that. That’s the first step. And it’s also so hard. It is also such a hard step because it really does require you to like rewire your habits and not just instinctually do things that you’ve done over and over again, it really requires you to, to change the way that your day runs. And the and, and it’s very, very hard. I personally, when I’m working through this stuff, and I don’t know if you tell your clients the same thing, but I’m trying to not only have these pauses and this awareness and asking myself questions like, why, and is that true? And those kinds of things. I’m trying to do that throughout my day, like, actually in my head, but then I’m also trying to implement like a journaling practice at the end of the day, or in the morning of okay, how am I feeling? And why and kind of taking that awareness to paper? Because I feel like all kinds of good stuff comes out on paper.

Becky Hoschek
Yes, yes. And there is research that shows that hand writing your thoughts, I cannot remember the technical, medical term neuro terminology about it. But there is something when we actually put our thoughts on paper that kind of cements and makes them a little more concrete to our brain, it helps draw that connection between, oh, like, when I think this, I feel this, or when I feel this way, I show up this way. And it is really helpful to see those connections. And it just gives you a different perspective, when you get them out of your head and put them on paper to I will say when you are really wanting to create this awareness of where you see hurry showing up in your life where you feel rushed. If you find it, hard to see it in yourself, you can start to pay attention to what you notice in other people, because it’s very common, you’re not going to have to go far to find examples. I remember, a couple of months ago, we had dropped my daughter off at ballet and one of my sons and I were on our way home. And I told this story it reset to, um, there was this car, it was pouring rain, my windshield wipers couldn’t go fast enough, it was dark it was this car went swerved around us went through a stoplight that had just turned red. And I told my son, oh, like whenever make good decisions when we’re in a hurry. And I think that what you see as true in other people resonates as true for you too. But sometimes when you’re first practicing this skill, it can be easier to pick it up and other people I mean, humans are a very much alike, we’re much more alike than we are different. So if you can even pick up in other people, these connections like oh, he must have said this because he was in a hurry. Or when he’s in a hurry, he does this or she said this and you can kind of start to lay those foundations before you start to notice it in yourself. So that’s something else to consider to just watch people around you because everybody is in a hurry. So you will see lots of examples.

Sabrina Gebhardt
Yeah, I love that making your eyes open and being aware of just hurry in general like in the world around you and kind of encouraging yourself to pick it out when you see it. I love that because you’re right, like, it can be easier, I can totally think of examples where it would be easier to call it out in somebody else. And when you start thinking about it in general, you start noticing it more in general, it’s like this little snowball. Right? So I love that I love that so much. Okay, so we’ve talked about the, the awareness. And that being like the really big first step, in your experience was coaching and teaching women what is the key to really the long term success here and really winning this war once and for all with hurry. Is there a mindset shift, or a change to the routine or something that gets the momentum and keeps it going?

Becky Hoschek
I think it’s commitment to the process of really rethinking the way that you think about your time and your productivity. It’s cultivating this ability to slow down on purpose, because your natural reaction is going to resist that very strongly. When you’ve done something one way for so long, your brain will naturally default to continuing to do it that way. So you have to really see the value and believe that the change is possible, even if it feels hard. If it feels like this is never going to work for me. It really will change but it does require repetition and commitments and little micro changes over time, that do kind of snowball into an overall lifestyle change where eventually you are making decisions differently. You are using your time differently. You view productivity differently. And the result is this change in emotional states instead of my days. Feeling right I hurried, overwhelmed and stressful, that becomes a now and then sort of thing once in a while, not just how my day is are. And that becomes replaced with more peace, more calm, more intention, even more joy, because it’s really hard to have fun or be present or enjoy what you’re doing when you’re just in a hurry to get the thing done and move on to the next thing. So it’s very cumulative. And I think what’s really cool, though, is no, it’s not an overnight shift. But it is really surprising. How quickly you start to notice differences and how you feel when you’re intentional to work on the mindset piece. And when you start to implement these micro changes that are really personal for everyone. But I think it is surprising how little things can make a big difference. Yeah, I

Sabrina Gebhardt
love that. And I definitely agree with that. Just the awareness and whether whether you’re committing to having an awareness about hurry or anything, when you commit to that awareness, it’s like the universe opens up and it’s like, okay, let’s talk about it. And they start, you know, you start to recognize things. And that immediately, you immediately start to feel a shift in your body, and mentally with how you relate to these things, how you feel about this subject, right. And then being willing to lean into that and take it a step further. I love that. I love that so much. This has been such a great chat, I know that it has been extremely valuable to the audience and I love to enter nd I love to end each interview with a series of a few fun questions just to kind of get to know our guests a little bit more. So what is your current favorite coffee shop order?

Becky Hoschek
So I am a type one diabetic. So I usually go with a skinny vanilla latte. Because it’s got sugar free built in. Yeah, prior to being diabetic. I probably would have said like a caramel macchiato.

Sabrina Gebhardt
Yeah, yeah, I do a skinny vanilla latte as well. I love that. Okay, so next question. What is your dream vacation? And I’m going to add to that, no kids. Okay. Maybe that changes.

Becky Hoschek
So well. Hawaii is my favorite place. And we try to make it there as much as we can. I love it. Whether or not there’s kids there. But um, my probably my dream trip would be to go to the Holy Land.

Sabrina Gebhardt
Oh, I know. I want to do that so bad. It seems so incredible. So okay, circling back to Hawaii. Which island? Do you like to go to Maui? Okay, yeah, I love Maui. It’s magical. Yes. Um,

Becky Hoschek
so I plan to eventually probably spend part of our years there. I don’t know, I don’t know what that’ll look like, would love to buy a place there and spend if our kids weren’t in if they didn’t have summer activities, we’d probably spend the summers there. But they have activities. So that will be postponed. But my husband would live in Montana right now if I would agree to it. And Hawaii is my place. So maybe in the future, we’ll split our time between the two.

Sabrina Gebhardt
Oh my gosh, that would be the dream dream, the dream. Okay. So I want you to think back over the course of your business. What was a decision or an investment that you made that you feel like was the biggest game changer for you? Yeah.

Becky Hoschek
So I have one of each. The biggest decision was, I am in this for the long game. Because I think when you think that way, you are not feeling like burning the whole thing down. When you’re in I always talk about like the peak and valley moments like when you’re in a valley, you’re not running the other direction, because you see it like the stock market, right? As like playing the long game. So that for sure. Also, when you’re in it for the long game, you’re not in a hurry to get here or there first you see it from a bigger perspective. But investment wise, hi, I really do think it has been one on one support. Sometimes that looks like mindset. Sometimes it looks like therapy. Sometimes that looks like a combination of the two but I have found those such a good grounding and anchor for me. Because I really do feel like mindset is the biggest asset I have both as a mom and an entrepreneur. And so I’ve seen the ripple effect of that work years later and so valuable.

Sabrina Gebhardt
Yeah, I agree with that. I in fact, this year at the beginning while at the end of last year, I told myself that I was going to grow my support team with a focus on like mindset and coaching because As a coach, you know, pouring into other people all the time, it’s really easy to feel like you’re not being refueled, right. And of course, we have spiritual life and family and friends. But like, it’s more than that, you know. And so, so this year, yeah, I kind of doubled down and had I got back in with my therapist, I hired a financial coach, I have a business coach, I have all these people. Yes, pouring into me and all these ways, so that I can do better for my own students and my family and everybody around me. So I love that.

Becky Hoschek
And I kind of look at those investments. I mean, I don’t have a team at certain terms of business, but I kind of look at those roles as I don’t pay people to work for me, but I do invest in people to be a support structure for that. So I

Sabrina Gebhardt
completely agree. Yeah, I love it. Okay, so last question. If you were not in business coaching, and podcasting, what do you think you’d be doing?

Becky Hoschek
So the the me who graduated college wanted to be a creative director, probably for a magazine, and I worked at Better Homes and Gardens first thing out of college. So I got a taste of that. But I think that I don’t really know, because the job I do now wasn’t even invented yet back then. And I can’t imagine what else I could be doing. That would allow me to be creative. Like I get to help other clients where I get to help clients with some of the creative aspects of their business, but I still don’t see my own marketing, I get to design, I get to do copywriting, I get to do all that fun stuff. And I get to do this work of really combining psychology and faith and some of this deeper stuff. So I don’t know, I can’t think of anything else that would fill all those buckets. I have always wanted to write a book. So maybe I would be an author. I don’t know. I love

Sabrina Gebhardt
it. I love it. And that’s okay. You can be exactly where you’re supposed to be. You don’t you don’t have to have another answer. Okay, this has been such a great chat. I’m so honored to have you on the shoot it straight podcast, I would love for you to just end and share with how people can connect with you.

Becky Hoschek
Yeah, so I create a lot of content over on Instagram. My handle there is at Becky Hosek. I just redesigned and relaunched my website that is Becky hosek.com. And really the best way to connect with me for one on one support would be to apply for coaching. You can do that by visiting Becky hosek.com/apply. Those are really the three best ways to get in touch if you have questions. If anything that I’ve shared has sparked a question feel free to reach out DM me over on Instagram. I’m happy to help however I can

Sabrina Gebhardt
love it. All right, my friends, we will see you next time. Before you leave today, I have to tell you about the round table. This is a community I built for female photographers who want to continue growing their business while forging industry friendships along the way. If you enjoy my teaching style on the podcast, then I know you will absolutely love the roundtable. In this group, you will learn practical ways to move your business forward while finding community and accountability with like minded photographers. Every month you will get access to three pieces of content over a broad variety of topics. In the past, we have covered things like pricing, editing, goal setting, website reviews, social media, and even videos for me behind the scenes at real sessions. Members have also had the opportunity to learn from incredible guest speakers and industry leaders on a huge variety of topics. I pride myself in giving you just enough education every month to keep you growing and moving forward. While not overwhelming you with content. Oh and the private Facebook community is absolutely incredible. Consider it your space to ask all the things get all the support and make real life business besties. If you’re ready to join us and take this podcast relationship a bit deeper, you can head over to Sabrina gephardt.com backslash membership and enroll today.

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